Res: [tied] Re: IE cockroach / kakerlak

From: Joao S. Lopes
Message: 48249
Date: 2007-04-04

Yes, and it's a very common Portuguese formation: "porta-jóias" (jewel-keeper), "fura-bolo" (cake-piercer, a childly nick for pointing finger ), "caça-fantasma" (ghost-buster), "guarda-metas" (goal-keeper), "mata-rato" (rat-killer), etc.

----- Mensagem original ----
De: Francesco Brighenti <frabrig@...>
Para: cybalist@yahoogroups.com
Enviadas: Quarta-feira, 4 de Abril de 2007 14:11:48
Assunto: [tied] Re: IE cockroach / kakerlak



--- In cybalist@... s.com, "tgpedersen" <tgpedersen@ ...> wrote:

> --- In cybalist@... s.com, "Joao S. Lopes" <josimo70@>
> wrote:
> >
> > caca-lacca? Portuguese? I've never heard it.
>
> Well, it's been documented, but what I meant to ask is: Would a
> hypothetical Portuguese word *caca-lacca make sense in Portuguese as
> a verb-object compound like French porte-monnaie, garde-robe? Does
> that type of nominal compound exist in Portuguese at all?

To my Italian ears -- which is not so distant from Portuguese -- such
a compound would make perfect sense (note that the verb cacare 'to
defecate' and the noun lacca 'lacquer' exist in both Italian and
medieval Latin, nay, caca:re is even a classical latin verb).

Cf. the following Italian slang verb-object compounds (well-attested
in literature):

http://italian. about.com/ library/slang/ bladultslanginde xc.htm
cacasenno (un/una) n. a know-it-all, a smart-ass; (lit.): one who
[defecates] wisdom.
cacasentenze m./f. inv. one who likes to moralize, one who acts like
he/she is very smart, a smart ass; (lit.): one who shits sentences.
cacasodo m./f. inv. an arrogant person, someone who thinks his/her
[feces] doesn't stink; (lit.): one who defecates hard (from the verb
cacare, meaning "to [defecate]" and the adjective sodo,
meaning "tough" or "hard."
cacasotto m./f. inv. a very fearful person; (lit.): one who
[defecates] down below.

Regards,
Francesco




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