RE : Re: RE : [tied] Pot

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "Richard Wordingham" <richard@...> wrote:

>
> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, patrick cuadrado <dicoceltique@>
> wrote:
>
> > In Celtic we've got in some cases P to connect with IE
>
> > * Peti- = to spare
> > Inscription of Larzac : « ]suet petidsiont sies… » = She will
> > spare...
> > Welsh Ar-bedu. Ols Irishs Ar-cessi (To have mercy)
>
> Strongly suggests Celtic *kw. Remember that PIE *p mostly vanished
> in Celtic, though we do have the development PIE *pt > Celtic *kt.
> British and Gaulish /p/ derive from PIE *kw, which in turn derives
> from PIE *k^w, *kW, and, I expect, *kw.

But for some reason many NWBlock words in p- are found in both
q-Celtic Irish and p-Celtic Welsh and Breton.
http://www.angelfire.com/rant/tgpedersen/KuhnText/list.html
They are traditionally seen as loans from English.
The alternative is that they are pre-Celtic as well as pre-Germanic.


Torsten