Re: [tied] An outline on evolution *tw- > z- in Albanian

--- Abdullah Konushevci <akonushevci@...> wrote:

> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, Sean Whalen
> <stlatos@...> wrote:

> > wi_ikYpótnY ... twàk ... twì ... twèrye
> > wi_kYpótnY .... twàk ... twì ... twèrye
> > wi_kYpotnY .... twàk ... twì ... twèrye
> > wíkYpotnY ..... twák ... twí ... twérye
> > wíkYopotnY .... twák ... twí ... twérye
> > wíkYobotnY .... twák ... twí ... twérye
> > wúkYobotnY .... twák ... twí ... twérye
> > wúkYobote ..... twák ... twí ... twérye
> > wúkYobote ..... t.wák .. t.wí .. t.wérye
> > wúkYobote ..... t.s.wák t.s.wí t.s.wérye
> > wúkYobote ..... tswák .. tswí .. tswérye
> > wúkYobote ..... dzwák .. dzwí .. dzwérye
> > wúc^obote ..... dzwák .. dzwí .. dzwérye
> > úc^wobote ..... dzwák .. dzwí .. dzwérye
> > úc^wobote ..... dzwák .. dzwí .. dzwé:ye
> > úc^wobote ..... dzwák .. dzyí .. dzwé:ye
> > ús^wobote ..... zwák ... dzyí .. zwé:ye
> > úz^wobote ..... zwák ... dzyí .. zwé:ye
> > úz^wobote ..... zákw ... dzyí .. zwé:ye
> > úz^wobote ..... záp .... dzyí .. zwé:ye
> > úzwobote ...... záp .... dzyí .. zwé:ye
> > úzwabate ...... záp .... dzyí .. zwé:ye
> > úzwaate ....... záp .... dzyí .. zwé:ye
> > úzwa:te ....... záp .... dzyí .. zwé:ye
> >
> > etc.
> >
> > zot ........... zap .... xi- .. -zoj

> Thanks a lot for your feedback, but I confess that I
> really am in
> big difficulties to follow such long road of
> transformation.

I started by assuming that kY > c^ > tT > T in Alb.
but ts in Rum. If it had become *ts in the
protolanguage, it would have merged with other
examples of ts from dentals in various positions and
combinations.

Then I needed to explain why *wikY- > z-.
Metathesis (which appears fairly common in the path to
Albanian) would explain it since there are other
changes of a fric. before w.

Since *wu- is usually changed in most IE languages
where it develops an intermediate change of *wi- >
*wu- seemed reasonable (possibly also *Cwi- > *Cyi-,
etc.)

I believe initial *(d. > d.z. > t.s. > ts before a
V) in Armenian, so a similar change in a more
restricted environment in Alb. seemed possible. Since
retroflex C's are formed by K() and r and often change
to fricatives, affricates, or r. in many IE branches
an intermediate change of t > t. before w seemed best.
The voicing of s > z would then also cause ts > dz.

With dz as an intermediate it must therefore be
preserved after n. If so, with wi > yi (above) it
could be preserved before y as well (so as not to
merge with earlier dy > dzYy, etc.)





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