From: george knysh
Message: 47915
Date: 2007-03-16
> >****GK: Since the term "zone" has comic book
> > It is the job
> > > of an opponent, not of the proponent to kill a
> > > theory. And as a long
> > > as a theory hasn't been killed, it's alive.
> >
> > GK: As long as you want to use such analogies
> > ("dead/alive") I would suggest a variant. Before a
> > theory can be "killed" it must at least be
> "alive".
> > Right? And alive scientifically, not just
> verbally.
> > Much as I might deplore this there is no
> scientific
> > proof for the existence of God. Yet God is alive
> and
> > hugely meaningful to countless people. But we are
> in a
> > different zone here. I think that OIT is in such a
> > non-scientific zone of its own.
>
> Do you have a reference where I can read about this
> zone
> theory? I recall from 'Superman' that there was a
> zone to
> which (scientific?) criminals were banned. Is this
> what
> you have in mind?
>****GK: I am not a Popperian, so this is not a comment
>
> > It is certainly
> > "alive", but not scientifically alive. AIT is not
> > established beyond all doubt.
>
> As I think Popper pointed out, you can't establish
> anything
> beyond all doubt. You seem to pop outside of his
> theory
> all the time.
>****GK: OK Sancho.****
>
> > But is has a tremendous
> > amount of scientific data in its favour. And the
> > doubts do not result, scientifically, in an
> argument
> > in favour of OIT.
>
> I don't recall anyone having proposed that. Please
> stay
> clear of the windmills.
>****GK: The same way one establishes the death of a
>
> > Flogging dead horses is not scientific
> argumentation.
>
> How does one clinically establish the death of a
> horse,
> to stay in your simile?
>****GK: Oh dear...****
>
> > One has to have something more positive to even
> begin a scientific
> > conversation.
>
> That's not Popper either.
>****GK: I have nothing against it in the proper
>
> > Mere "propositions" won't cut it. As in the case
> of
> > the "eastern origins" of Germanic (:=))), still
> alive
> > in your head, as your obiter dicta frequently
> > indicate, but scientifically quite dead...*****
>
> I'm sorry to hear that, dr. Knysh. Donc Dieu existe?
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>
> Torsten
>
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