Re: Res: [tied] Etymology of Rome - h1rh1-em-/h1rh1-o:m-

From: alexandru_mg3
Message: 47860
Date: 2007-03-15

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, Piotr Gasiorowski <gpiotr@...> wrote:
>
> On 2007-03-14 22:34, alexandru_mg3 wrote:
>
> > Based on what examples and based on what reasons you asserted
HR.H
> > in PIE?
> >
> > When a _non_syllabic_ HRH is a good candidate too for that
outputs
> >
> > This was my question from the beginning....
>
> Based on examples such as *h2n.h1ént > Skt. anánt (rather than
*nant or
> *inant) and *h1uh2ái > Skt. uvé (rather than *vé or *ivé).
> Piotr
>

a) You try to tell me that Skt. anánt is 'the most natural possible
output of *h2n.h1ént ?

'The most natural' should be a-ant > *a:nt- and Such forms with
long a: really exists see: a:ni:t [3sg.impf.act.]

So Both examples are constructed based on an IMPOSSIBLE TO PROVE OR
TO DENY SUPPOSITION:
"The hiatus that appeared is filled 'exactly' with the missing
phonem: n or w"
True or not : you cannot say that this is a general linguistic
rule...this could be POSSIBLE.


b) Next:
*h2nh1-eìnt- could have been analogically reshaped to
*h2enh1-eìnt- > anánt
(based on *h2eình1-ti)

see similary:
*h2rg^-nt-o > *h2erg^-nt-o > *h2reg^-nt-o > (H)rajatá- 'silver-
coloured'


B. Next I need to follow here Miguel with his counter-example:

1. On one hand we have PIE *str.h3t'os > Grk. stro:t'os
so PIE *R.h3 > Grk.*Ro:

2. On the other hand PIE *h3nh3mn. > Grk. onoma so h3 is vocalized
here (h3>o) and not the R (see n=n)


Finally 'my feeling' is the following : we can have cases when
HRH > HR.H but also we can have cases when Not, depending on the word
structure...so the final clue will be Latin.

Marius