Re: [tied] Slavic *sUto -> is NOT INHERIT

--- Miguel Carrasquer Vidal <miguelc@...> wrote:

> On Thu, 15 Feb 2007 18:09:47 -0800 (PST), Sean
> Whalen
> <stlatos@...> wrote:
>
> >--- stlatos <stlatos@...> wrote:
> >
> >> I've found more evidence in the treatment of
> soN-
> >> / sU-. Before a
> >> vowel or KW in the next syllable *sum- > *suw- >
> >> sU-.
> >>
> >> *xnY,gYh+ > sUvENzati
> >>
> >> *gWhub+ > sUgUnoNti
> >
> > Of course, this seems to leave open the question
> of
> >why PIE *sm- 'one, together' vs *dwi- 'two, apart'
> (in
> >a more traditional reconstruction) would > *sum- in
> >Slavic to begin [with] following the rules I gave.
>
> The question is rather why the preverb / preposition
> (which
> is _always_ sU- before a consonant, no matter what's
> in the
> next syllable, and sUn- before a vowel)

To me *xnY,gYh+ > sUvENzati looks like *suw- before
a vowel. Whatever the rules were, one form could
spread by analogy (as vUz- even though d>z didn't
occur everywhere (and not word-final)).

> differs from
> the
> reflex soN- in compound nouns such as soNsêdU
> "neighbour".
> The answer is that where the prefix is separable,
> when it is
> used as a preverb or preposition, *k^om and *som

I see no need for a form like *k^om; it seems *ksom
changed by analogy to sam-, etc., in some languages
since they had similar meanings.

> develop
> according to the Auslaut rules, giving *suN > sU.

If so why would it ever appear as sUn-? Analogy
with a form like *en- > *eN-/en- seems necessary
anyway. I doubt that *-un > -U. Since -o:m > -u:m >
-U but -o:n > -u:n > y I doubt final n and m had
merged at this stage. Probably final dentals > 0
after a long vowel and m>w after u, u:w>uw, uw>u, then
nasalization occurred.

> In
> fixed
> compounds, *k^om-/*som- develop as in the Inlaut,
> giving
> soN-.

Positing a form like *som- just to explain Slavic
when many nasal vowels merge and C. > uC or iC
according to rules that aren't fully explained seems
unnecessary.

I think you deserve an explanation for some of my
odd speculations since I haven't given all my evidence
for every rule yet. However, since some of your
recent responses have seemed too hostile or insulting
to me I will no longer respond to your messages.





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