Re: [tied] Re: Near Eastern origin of European cattle.

But the bull cult could have been related to Mithraism, very common among Roman soldiers. Remember that Christian churches were often founded on top of Mithraeums. The bull while perhaps not worshipped, was certainly important in IE culture, e.g. the Tain Bo Cualgne, et al.

Abdullah Konushevci <akonushevci@...> wrote:

--- In cybalist@... s.com, "marktwainonice"
<marktwainonice@ ...> wrote:
>
> --- In cybalist@... s.com, "tgpedersen" <tgpedersen@ > wrote:
> >
> >
> > > > All the sources you mention are characteristically vague on
> what
> > > > defines a location as a center of domestication. The
practical
> > > > definition seems to be that for each race of cows, within
its
> area
> > > > they have picked the place with the earliest archaeologically
> > > > documented transition to farming as the center of
> domestication
> > > > for that race. And as I said, much of NEAsia is under-
> investigated
> > > > archaeologically. Therefore, Anatolia might have to give up
> the
> > > > prize one day.
> > > >
> >
> > > That said, it is still *always* going to be either Anatolia or
> South
> > > Asia in the Indo-European world, as far deciding the issue of
PIE
> > > origin is concerned.
> >
> >
> > Of course not. If an archaeological site with transition to
> > stock-breeding earlier than that of the Anatolian ones is found
> > somewhere on the Steppes between the Ukraine and China, that site
> > automatically becomes the new assumed origin of domestication of
> Bos
> > Taurus. And on the origin of cereals, none of your sources seem
to
> be
> > aware that the European and East Asian varieties of millet are
> > identical. Obvious that didn't come out of Anatolia.
> > Torsten
>
> To interject myself here, looking at the cultural IE context,
since
> IE people did not divinize cattle (unlike Middle Easterners,
> Egyptians, and South Asians), but quite clearly knew about them at
> the PIE state, looking towards Anatolia as the site for
introduction
> of domestic cattle into Europe is not improbable.
>
> Mark
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I am afraid that your are wrong, for the cult of bull was very live
in Balkan and tradition languages. There exists the legend that all
world depends on bull's horn, so it was worshiped like Poseidon,
known as earthquake god as well. Recent excavations in city Novo
Monte found under the basement of the catholic church relics of the
cult of bull. It was the reason why one of my assumption about the
localization of ancient Dardanian town Damastion should be around
this Medieval city, derived from *demH2-/domH2- 'to constrain,
force, especially to break in (horses, bulls) was so much
appreciated.

Konushevci

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