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cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "tgpedersen" <tgpedersen@...> wrote:
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> > You might as well forget of horse riding pastoral nomads. The other
> > line of thinking Tortsen is taking has a better chance of succeding.
> > Agriculture could be responsible for the expansion from the steppes
> > not horseback nomadism
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> Agriculture is nor responsible for the spread of the IE-speaking
> Corded Ware culture into Europe, mr Klekar. It was already in place.
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> Torsten
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corded_Ware_culture#Language
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pitted_Ware_culture
"Its connections with the probably pre-Indo-European Funnelbeaker
culture and the probably Proto-Indo-European Corded Ware culture are
debated. As the language left no records, its linguistic affiliations
are a mystery."
The key words here are "probably". You are assuming that the Corded
Ware culture was IE speaking. Its all circular reasoning. First CW is
asummed to have spoken IE languages and then IE langauges are supposed
to have spread where ever the CW culture is found. This kind of
thinking is not scientific and is out of fashion these days. Where is
the evidence of CW culture in South Asia? I produce just one quote to
prove my point.
"Thus the core area of the Hallstat D sites has been seen as the area
in which a Celtic koine or lingua franca developed. Such ideas are
highly speculative. They owe much to early twentieth century thinking,
which assumed that an archeological complex is equivalent of a culture
and that a culture is a product of a specific people-indeed, in the
opinion of some writers, a specific race....
(Omitted paragraph)
Such theories are now viewed with suspicion. There is a realization
that they involve a considerable degree of circular argument.;
archeologist have taken on trust notions from linguists, as have
linguists from archeologist, causing each to build on the other's
myths (Davies 2000, p. 26)."
Davies, John (2000), The Celts, London, United Kingdom: Cassell and
Company.
M. kelkar