Re: [tied] Something about Lachmann

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, Piotr Gasiorowski <gpiotr@...> wrote:

>
> On 2007-02-06 00:06, alexandru_mg3 wrote:
>
> > But for nu:dus we need -odHos, Piotr, not -edHos :
> >
> > nu:dus < *nogW-odHos
> >
> > I 'can see' how *-eh1-tó-s would give *edHos > idHus (based on a
> > supposed h1t > tH > dH)
>
> Not quite. In Italic, we have the merger of intervocalic *-dH- and

*-tH-

> as a voiced fricative (*-D- > Lat. -d-). Note such correspondences

as

> Lat. vi:vidus : OInd. ji:vatHa- 'long-lived', both of them possibly
> reflecting *gWih3we-h1-to-.
>

This wouldn't be a problem if we would assumed the right timeframes:

1. h1t > tH
2. tH > dH (or any type of merger of tH, dH)
3. -dH- > -d- (with the known exceptions)

Not related with the timeframes:
Based on what you suspect a voiced fricative -D- ? and 'not
directly' -dH- > -d- ? (as in PAlb dH > d, bH > b etc...)

> > but 'I cannot see' how *-eh1-tó-s would give *-odHos > *nogW-

odHos

>
> Both *-owo- and *-owe- may end up as /u:/ in Latin (via *-ou-, with

the

> syncope of the unstressed medial vowel), cf.
>
> iu:stus < *jowestos
> nu:ndinus < *nowen-dinos
>
> Similarly, *nogWV-tHo- > *nowVDo- > nu:dus, whatever the original

vowel.

>
> Piotr

You are right.Thanks.

Marius

So finally Latin -idus, -u:dus etc.. reflecting adjectives in -to
derived from -eh1 verbs: very creative guy, that one ...