From: Mate Kapović
Message: 47180
Date: 2007-01-29
> On Mon, 29 Jan 2007 23:53:30 +0100 (CET), Mate KapovićSome of it may be simultaneous, some if it may not be... I don't know. But
> <mkapovic@...> wrote:
>
>>On Pon, siječanj 29, 2007 11:20 pm, Miguel Carrasquer Vidal reče:
>>> Pardon my ignorance, but I was wondering about that. When
>>> Ivs^ic''s law causes withdrawal of the stress from a weak
>>> yer to the preceding syllable, that syllable receives
>>> neo-acute intonation. But what intonation does the next
>>> syllable receive when the stress is moved forward from an
>>> initial weak yer? Apparently, in Slovak (though not in
>>> Czech or Polish) dU``cer- > dcé:r-,
>>
>>Oh it happens also in Czech and Polish, but dialectally... I think there
>>are forms like dcóra in both...
>>
>>> with lengthening of /e/
>>> (neo-acute?). In kc'i^ / hc^i^, the intonation remains
>>> falling, but what happens when the newly stressed syllable
>>> is not final?
>>
>>Well, the oblique cases in Croatian are G. kće``ri, D. kće``ri which
>>should derive from *d7``kter- so I guess that answers your question.
>>
>>And it doesn't just occur when the jor is accent, cf. Kajkavian *v7
>>ju´´tro > (v) ju^tro.
>
> Does that mean that these are two different soundlaws,
> separated in time (1. retraction from weak yer with
> neo-acute on preceding syllable; 2. advancement from weak
> yer with "neo"-circumflex on next syllable)? Or can they
> still be simultaneous (retraction from weak yer with
> neo-acute on preceding syllable, if there is one, else
> advancement from weak yer without neo-acute on next
> syllable)?