From: mcarrasquer
Message: 47055
Date: 2007-01-22
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> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "mcarrasquer" <miguelc@> wrote:
> >
> > --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "mandicdavid" <davidmandic@>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > The 1sg. pres. ending -oH2 yielded acute -o: in Lithuanian
> > > short -u). In Slavic, it turned into -a: and was later expandedand
> > > with the secondary ending -m (cf. 1sg. aorist pekU < *pekwom,
> > > also skr. bhára:mi < *bhero:+mi). The addition of -m probablyu: >
> > > followed the change o: > a: in Slavic, because the o: yielded
> > > y before nasal stops in word-final position: kamy < *ka:mu: <back
> > > *ak'mo:n. Also, -a:N# wasn't affected by umlaut (A.sg. zemljoN;
> > > thus also 1.sg. pres. bijoN etc.).
> >
> > Actually, the addition of -m must have followed the raising of
> > vowels before final nasals (or we would have gotten *-o:m > *-u:NOr *-oH2 > *-o: , + *-m > *-o:m -> *-aN -> *-oN
>
> > *-uN > -U), and preceeded the shortening of long diphtongs (or we
> > would have gotten -o:m > -a(m)).
>
>
> So you're saying it went *-oH2 > *-o: -> *-a:, + *-m > *-a:m -> *-aN
> -> *-oN?
> Using the sandhi variant scheme, one could go insteadWhat have oxytone neuters to do with the verbal 1sg.?
> *-ó/*-óN and leave it there, *-ó for oxytone neuters NAsg, *-óN for
> 1sg pres.
>have
> > <Kamy> "stone" cannot come from *h2ák^mo:n, because that would
> > yielded <kamU>. In fact, it _does_ yield <kam> in I forget whichdropped
> > Slavic dialect (Kashubian?). The Slavic form, like Lith. <akmuõ>,
> > comes from PIE *h2ák^mõ, a variant with the final resonant
> > (only its falling tone remains).No. -mo:n / -mõ. The tilde denotes circumflex accent, not
>
> Variants? *-mo:n/*-moN?
> > There is another Slavic variant (Northern Russian?) <kama>, whichacute
> > may come from PIE *h2ák^mo:, also with /n/ dropped, but with
> > tone, or from *h2ák^mo:n, with /n/ dropped in later (Balto-)Slavic
> > times, but still before the N-raising. Another such variant mayVDV´/ ->
> > underlie <vodá>, where we would have expected *wo(n)duõ (= Lith.
> > vanduõ) to have yielded *v(o)dy or the full form *wo(n)do:r >
> > *v(o)do(r) [I won't mention the fact that we would have expected
> > something other than /o/ in the first syllable].
>
> *wodó: (Goth. wato:) -> Lith. vanduõ with /n/ from the rule /-
> /VnDhV´/, since voiced stops are prenasalized (not preglottalized,as
> Kortlandt wants); the /n/ in this word is one of the few survivorsof
> paradigm regularization, which everywhere else replaced it withvanduõ *has* Winter's law. The -an- diphthong is acute (Asg.
> Winther lengthening (sez I).
> Slavic vodá might be backformed as a*wódo:ns.
> singular (hence the mysterious f.) from the regular *vódy <-
>There is no such rule. Stress plays no part in the Slavic
> I assume all the rules you supplied are for unstressed endings (they
> don't seem to include *-ó(N) -> *-ó of oxytone neuter NAsg)?