Re: [tied] Re: Balto-Slavic C-stems / long vowel endings

On Pon, siječanj 22, 2007 12:15 am, mcarrasquer reče:

> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "mandicdavid" <davidmandic@...>
> wrote:
>>
>> The 1sg. pres. ending -oH2 yielded acute -o: in Lithuanian (later
>> short -u). In Slavic, it turned into -a: and was later expanded
> with
>> the secondary ending -m (cf. 1sg. aorist pekU < *pekwom, and also
>> skr. bhára:mi < *bhero:+mi). The addition of -m probably followed
> the
>> change o: > a: in Slavic, because the o: yielded u: > y before
> nasal
>> stops in word-final position: kamy < *ka:mu: < *ak'mo:n. Also, -a:N
> #
>> wasn't affected by umlaut (A.sg. zemljoN; thus also 1.sg. pres.
> bijoN
>> etc.).
>
> Actually, the addition of -m must have followed the raising of back
> vowels before final nasals (or we would have gotten *-o:m > *-u:N > *-
> uN > -U),

Only if one derives G. pl. -U from *-o:m...

> and preceeded the shortening of long diphtongs (or we would
> have gotten -o:m > -a(m)).
>
> <Kamy> "stone" cannot come from *h2ák^mo:n, because that would have
> yielded <kamU>.
> In fact, it _does_ yield <kam> in I forget which
> Slavic dialect (Kashubian?).

... which is not necessarily archaic. Dropping of the obsolete -y to make
a new o-stem is hardly surprising. In Croatian, one also finds dialectally
kamen/kami/kam/kamik, plamen/plami/plam etc. But not everything needs to
be derived directly from PIE.

> The Slavic form, like Lith. <akmuő>,
> comes from PIE *h2ák^mő, a variant with the final resonant dropped
> (only its falling tone remains).

Or, simpler, from PIE *h2ek'mo:ns with a final *-s.