Re: suffixes in -ario-/-ariu-

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, Piotr Gasiorowski <gpiotr@...> wrote:

>
> On 2007-01-12 00:33, Brian M. Scott wrote:
>
> > Watkins, Amer. Her. Dict. of IE Roots, says that Latin
> > <-a:rius> is from Italic <-a:s-io->, whose first element is
> > obscure, and whose second represents a PIE relational
> > adjectival suffix *-yo- 'related or belonging to'.
>
> Intervocalic *-sj- seems to have developed into Lat. -ii-, as in
> *kWosjo > cuiius, so -a:rius must be from *-a:s-ijo- (which looks
> like a "doubly thematic" derivative of *-a:s-o-, whatever that is
> -- I'll think about it). Non-Latin Italic -a:sio occurs e.g. in
> borrowed proper names like <Vespa:sius> and in Umbr. plenasier
> (loc.pl.) 'Ides' > < *ple:na:sijo- 'time of full moon' (Weiss).

Germanic -ari- (vel sim.) is usually called a loan from Latin. Basque
has -tar as place-of-origin suffix, so does possibly the unrelated
Iberian. Given its uncertain provenance in Latin, can you rule out
it's a wander-suffix?


Torsten