Re: [tied] Re: Proto-Tsimshian

From: Patrick Ryan
Message: 46693
Date: 2006-12-16

Like Richard, I, too, am skeptical but for a different reason.
 
There is simply too much play in the correspondences.
 
 
Patrick
 
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Sent: Friday, December 15, 2006 9:12 PM
Subject: [tied] Re: Proto-Tsimshian

--- In cybalist@... s.com, "C. Darwin Goranson"
<cdog_squirrel@ ...> wrote:
>
> --- In cybalist@... s.com, "Clayton Cardoso" <entrelenga@ >
> wrote:
> >
> > I am not sure if this has been discussed here before (or if it is
> > on-topic), but I would like to know of the validity of this theory:
> >
> > Proto-Tsimshian: A New World Indo-European Language, by John A.
> Dunn (2001)
> > http://faculty- staff.ou. edu/D/John. A.Dunn-1/ text/p1.htm
> >
> > Thanks in advance,
> > Clayton
> >
>
> I'm still in 2nd year undergrad, but I've done a bit of studying on
> Proto-Indo-European and have looked into Eurasiatic and Nostratic and
> such.
>
> I wouldn't dismiss the idea completely. However, if the personal
> pronouns are different and the number system is too, at best we're
> dealing with an IE substrate.

Number systems can be replaced.

> I won't deny that it looks suspicious, but either way, it proves a
> point. If it turns out not to be IE at all, then it's more evidence
> to suggest that mere word similarities, even on proto-levels, aren't
> necessarily enough to prove connections.

Most of the words have meanings that don't keep their words well. On
the basis of the evidence, I would say that Tsimshian was not
Indo-European.

Richard.