Re: Archaeology of the Horse

From: mkelkar2003
Message: 46518
Date: 2006-11-02

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, george knysh <gknysh@...> wrote:
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> > Is there supposed to be some point to this goulash?
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> > --- mkelkar2003 <swatimkelkar@...> wrote:
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> > > "Although significantly altered from their
> > original
> > > composition,
> > > comparison of the isotopic and distributional data
> > > obtained for the
> > > samples from Botai with data obtained for modern
> > and
> > > prehistoric
> > > reference horse fats /cut for economy GK/ etc etc
> > etc.
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> > The postulated expansion of IE associated with the
> > spread of Corded Ware cultures to northern and
> > central
> > Europe in the 4th and 3rd millennium BC from a
> > Ponto-Caspian heartland does not depend on the
> > classical "kurgan" theory, and does not require the
> > existence of nomadism or even the presence of
> > cavalry
> > as a preponderant military element for its
> > justification.

What does it depend on then?

That's for starters. The attempt of
> > the
> > Renfrew school to discredit the notion of early
> > horse
> > domestication in the steppes by distinguishing this
> > from "taming" is a separate issue altogether. I
> > don't
> > find their arguments particularly convincing.

Which argument in particular? Do you still want to propse that PIE
speakers assuming they existed rode on horsebacks (like nomads)
spreading the IE langauges?

Much
> > of
> > this has already been discussed here at various
> > times.

"Discussesd" does not mean all the objections have been answered.

> > Must one begin anew every few months? How many times
> > is it necessary to repeat that it is Corded Ware
> > (originating in the Serednyj Stih/Sredny Stog
> > culture
> > prior to the latter's evolution into Yamna) which
> > assimilated Trypilia and Globular Amphorae, and not
> > the other way around?

You lost me there. What does corded ware have to do with supposed
exapnsion/invasion of the IE speakers. You may have read the
citation about Yamnaya not having any evidence of long distance
migrations or nomadism.

> > Also: instead of re-posting the various citations in
> > the aforementioned goulash, why not respond to JL's
> > query about the five designations of "horse"?


I did. My post was rejected by the moderator(s).

M. Kelkar

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