From: tgpedersen
Message: 46369
Date: 2006-10-15
>BTW, on the subject of cranes:
> Rick Derksen
> (Old Icelandic jarpi "hazel grouse", rjúpa "ptarmigan"
> and their Germanic and Balto-Slavic cognates, in
> Language Contact; Substratum, Superstratum, Adstratum
> in Germanic Languages)
> quotes Henning Andersen for the following summary
>
> Proto-Slavic
> xxxxxxxxxx simple complex
> full grade e:rb erimb
> zero grade i:rb rimb
>
> Proto-Baltic
> xxxxxxxxxx simple complex
> full grade e:rb erumb
> zero grade i:rb rumb
>
> of his proposal to account for substrate NWEuropean substrate
> words meaning "hazel grouse", "ptarmigan", "rowan tree" and
> "speckled".
> Derksen emendates it to
>
> Proto-Slavic
> xxxxxxxxxx simple complex
> full grade erHb e:re/imb
> zero grade irHb re/imb
>
> Proto-Baltic
> xxxxxxxxxx simple complex
> full grade erHb e:ru:b, erumb
> zero grade irHb rub
>
> and remarks that it is tempting to ascribe the laryngeal to
> Winter's law, but that the complex Baltic form (Latv. rubenis
> "black grouse") precludes that. Apart from that, if this is
> a freak form, Derksen's summary shows an alternation between
> a voiced unaspirated produced lengthening and a nasal, in other
> words *-V:rb-/*-VrVmb-. Now suppose that voiced unaspirated are
> not preglottalized as claimed but instead prenasalised, as
> Pulleyblank has proposed, that alternation would be instead
> *-VrHb-/*-VrMb-. That means that positing voiced unaspirated
> as prenasalized can account for Winter's law as well as
> positing them as preglottalized.
>