Re: Hittie hi- / Germanic preterito-presentic

From: Jens Elmegård Rasmussen
Message: 46349
Date: 2006-10-11

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "tgpedersen" <tgpedersen@...> wrote:

> There are two theories to account for the origin of the Germanic
> weak verb
> 1) an univerbation of a periphrastic tense involving the perfect
> of *dHeh1- "put"
> 2) some derivation from the ppp in *-tó-
> ( cf http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Germanic_weak_verb)
>
> I like the first one, but something's got to give.
> Therefore I propose that the the 2sg, 3sg Hittite hi-conj. pret.
> *-ta and do. Slavic aorist *-tU is from the PIE *dHoh1-,
> the perfect of *dHeh1-.

I think the answer is in a combination: The past participle in *-to-
+ the preterite of 'do'. Gothic satida 'er setzte', PGm. *satide:,
is then from *satida-dide: 'made set, machte gesetzt', and 3pl
satide:dun is from *satida-de:dun 'they made set, sie machten
gesetzt'. The phonetics involves a touch of haplology in the
interior, in that short vowels are lost and multiple d's are
simplified. Further there is loss of inflection of the participle
which must have originally agreed with the object. Semantically the
expression is like 'get the work done' or Latin canta:re 'sing',
properly 'make sung', a factitive made form the participle cantus.

So English loved should not be from Wikipedia's 'did love' but
from 'did loved'.

Jens