Re[2]: [tied] Vowel Lengthening from V + Voiced Stop (was Vowel Le

At 4:47:39 PM on Monday, October 2, 2006, Piotr Gasiorowski
wrote:

> On 2006-10-02 19:47, Patrick Ryan wrote:

>> For an inherently short vowel, the measure of [I]
>> in an English word like <bilabial>
>>
>> ***CORRECTION: <bitumen> ***
>>
>> would be more likely to give a benchmark
>> duration of the vowel, in my opinion, i. e. not
>> stressed, not word-, phrase- or sentence-final.

> All right, but the same phoneme will be realised a little
> longer in <ligament>. Which of the two durations is the
> benchmark one?

Patrick said 'not stressed', so I assume that he's using one
of the U.S. pronunciations of <bitumen>, with stress on the
second syllable. Given the comparison with <ligament>, I
suspect that you're using the British pronunciation
['bItjUmIn].

I don't think that <bitumen> with stress on the second
syllable is a very good example, because the first syllable
is [b&-] for some speakers.

Brian