Re: [tied] Re: Oven [was: Germanic consonants]

Elsewhere he gives a
> few more examples, e.g

> OE/OIc. sufl, OHG sufil
> vs. OSw. sughl 'pulmentum, stuff to be eaten with bread' (< *suxla-,
> *suGla-)
>
DEO:
"
sul et 'ködmad; ködfylde'; glda. suwel, suel, no. sul, fornsv. sufl,
sv. sovel, oldnord. sufl n. 'tilmad til bröd', oldsax. suBal, oldhty.
subil, oldeng. sufl, eng. dial. sowl, sool; af germ. *suBla- n., med
en aflydende form mholl. su:vel 'mälk(eprodukt) ', holl. zuivel 'smör
og ost'; den sidste betydn. er sikkert aeldst, da ordene hörer til
germ. *su(:)b-, ie. *su(:)p-, i aflydsforh. til *seup-, med
parallelrod *seub-, se I., II. suppe og suge. — Jf. III. sule.
"

from Peter Schrijver: Lost Languages in Northern Europe
"
Another etymon that may originally have belonged to the language of
geminates is *sugh-, *sug-, *su:k- 'to suck', which is found in Italic
(Latin su:gere 'to suck', su:cus 'sap'), Celtic (Welsh sugno 'to suck'
< *seuk-, Old Irish súgid < *su:g(h)-), Baltic (Latvian sùkt 'to
suck') and, notably, Germanic (Old English su:can, Dutch zuiken <
*su:g-, Old English socian 'to soak' < *sug-; Old English and Old High
German su:gan 'to suck' < *su:k/gh-, with various ablaut grades; and
also Germanic *su:p- > Germ. saufen, *supp- > German Suppe, etc.). An
interchange of voiced and voiceless velar stops and also of velar and
labial stops is one of the characteristics of the language of
geminates, as Kuiper has pointed out. In an etymon such as this one
might admittedly expect erratic changes of a sound-symbolic nature,
but the fact remains that what we find here closely resembles the
pattern seen in other, non-expressive etyma belonging to the language
of geminates. Now these forms show more than a passing resemblance to
the Proto-Uralic word for 'mouth', *s´oxï, which developed into
Proto-Finno- Ugric *s´uxï (> Finnish suu, perhaps Northern Lappish
c^ovvâ; Sammallahti 1988: 540; UEW, p. 492 reconstructs *s´uwe). One
might again argue that the Uralic word was borrowed by the language of
geminates, which passed it on, after processing, to Indo-European
languages in the neighbourhood.
"

I should add Danish sutte "suck"

Torsten

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