Re: kentum/satem: why Lithuanian kg before e/i

From: alexandru_mg3
Message: 45722
Date: 2006-08-14

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "altamix" <alxmoeller@...> wrote:
>
> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "tolgs001" <st-george@> wrote:
> >
> > >These are the reasons that we are obliged to suspect wa
> > >not o>oa in Romanian /c^wara/
> > >
> > >Marius
> >
> > The Romanian diphtong <oa> here (which is by no means
> > correctly rendered by the narrow transcription /wa/) is
> > a very late occurrence - a few centuries old, and specific
> > only to the south-eastern ("muntenian") subdialect of
> > Romanian.
>
> <snip>
>
> > George
> >
>
>
>
> does anyone forget the diphtongation of "o" to "oa" is
> present in Arumanian as well ??!! :-)
> The change should be more as a few century old since in Arumanian
> _and_ Moldavian dialects there are forms as "oaminji/oaminii" and
> that means the diphtongation is older as the change of "e" to "i"
> before "n", thus _older_ as the first literar testimonies and of
> course, not restricted just to some Wallachian (Muntenian)
> subdialects.
>
> P.S. I think that what literary is showed as "oa" is in fact the
> said "wa". Or is there any posibility for you to distinge
> between "wa" or "oa"? I have to recognise I cannot make the
> difference .
>
> Alex
>


For George: o/stressed /e,ã,a > oa is considered Common Romanian
(Rosetti)

and oa is /wa/, George (see Rosseti too)



Marius