Re: Stød and rising tone

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "tgpedersen" <tgpedersen@...> wrote:

> I think it is in the nature of the game that it is the
> bulli-ees, not the bulliers, who change their language.

Sure, but to what? Ideally, to the language of the bulliers. In the
thriller, then, the Hittite army already had given up the
subjunctive and were keenly watching out for any unpatriotic signs
of it.

>
>
> Anyway, on completely different subject:
>
> When I was in the army in Holbæk, I noticed that Sjællandsk
> stød divided the vowel into two morae; something like
> på?å 'på' (standard: på?) "on"
> a?a 'af' (standard: a?) "off"
> with a level tone on the first 'mora' and a similarly level,
> but higher tone on the second.
> It occcurred to me that if one left out the glottal stop,
> ie. the closing of the glottis in that sequence, then, since
> there was no interruption to 'reset' the tone height, the
> result would be a two-morae, ie. long vowel which was rising
> (since it had to get from the low tone to the high one).
> This might be the way to explain the correspondence between
> Danish stød and Swedish tone 1 (rising tone). What do you
> think?

Your description is right, I speak that way myself. The second part
may have a falsetto tone. Maybe the stød was once just subphonemic,
being merely an exaggeration helped on its way by a creaky voice.
Creaky voice is very common in Southern Sweden.

Jens