From: Abdullah Konushevci
Message: 45366
Date: 2006-07-15
On 7/15/06, george knysh <gknysh@...> wrote:
--- Abdullah Konushevci <akonushevci@...> wrote:
> Seems that "ry-ba" is an abstractum in -ba, like:
> Zal-ba, goz-ba,
> svad-ba, veZ-ba, Zur-ba etc. If Slavic y < *u:,
****GK: "y" is (I think) an "i-type" pronunciation:
pbi-BA, pbi-Bbi in 15th c. texts. Does this go back to
an *u: ?*****
[AK]About *u: > y see : byti 'to be', OCS dymu in Derksen's "Proto-Slavic inherited lexicon", on-line version.
the> most plausible
> explanation would be the root in *reu(H)- 'to smash,
> knock down, tear
> out etc.'. I exclude here the root *reu- 'to below'.
> Just a guessing.
*****GK: Thank you. What kind of fish would behave in
this way? We're almost talking of behemoths or
leviathans. Proto-Slavs watching whales in the arctic,
and then migrating and applying the term to smaller
fishies in lakes and rivers? How about another
guess?*****
[AK]
Do you have in mind Greek <phal(l)-aina> 'whale' and Alb. <bli> 'sturgeon', both derivate from zero-grade suffixed form of PIE *bhel- 'to blow, swell'. (Pokorny 3. bhel- 120.)