Re: [tied] Hamp on Alb.

On 2006-07-07 06:18, Abdullah Konushevci wrote:

> Such etymology was first proposed by Meyer. But, if the basic root is
> *basko-, I guess that it would yield in Albanian <bahe>, synonymic
> with <hobe> 'slingshot, sling', but historical meaning is 'catapult',
> made by a piece of skin ore something woven together and that was
> bind by two bands on both side, seems to be from the same root by
> doublet inversion. <hobe> agrees with ending -oi, that to my view,
> yields Alb. <e> as plural ending. See also for this proposition also
> Douglas Kilday on his reply about this word in sci.lang.

I agree about <bah->, which makes me think that the word is not
inherited from PIE but borrowed from some Balkan adstrate, similar to
Ancient Macedonian, at a time when -sk- in *baska: < *bHask-ah2 could no
longer develop into /h/. The "doublet inversion" looks completely
arbitrary to me.

> For this reason I have proposed other etymology: 2. Probably suffixed
> zero-grade form *bhH _2 s-ko (of *bheH2- 'to speak')> bashkë
> 'together', <bashkëshort> 'spouse, husband: second part of compound
> is probably Lat. sors, -tis 'fate, destiny', so literally means to
> have together same destiny', <bashk-i> 'municipality', <bashk-oj> 'to
> unite, band together, connect' etc. (cf. Italian <bandire 'to muster,
> band together' from Gmc *ban-wan, *bannan).

This *bHah2- proposal ignores the external connections, including the
Greek/Macedonian and Aromanian words, all of which mean 'bundle'.

Piotr