Re: [tied] *rebh- or *H3rebh-

From: Abdullah Konushevci
Message: 45211
Date: 2006-07-03

Really, but *bh > Greek ph: *bhH-n-yo > phainein 'to shine', Alb. <bënj> 'to do, to bring to light'; *bha-k'o > Greek phagos 'lentil', Alb. <bathë> 'broad bean'; *bher- > Greek pherein, Alb. bie, Lat. ferre.

Konushevci

On 7/3/06, Piotr Gasiorowski <gpiotr@...> wrote:

On 2006-07-03 17:04, Abdullah Konushevci wrote:

> *H3 is described phontecally as a rounded velar fricative [XW], but
> I doubt as well that /b/ in <brinjë> as well as <v> in <vrap> could
> as well be a prefix, but rounded character of *H3, followed by
> resonant leaves a space to doubt of their laryngeal origin.
> Nevertheless, I just started to treat words in *r-. It was just an
> assumption. But, to not accept that Alb. <brinjë> that has so much
> cognate in Germanic languages and in Slavic, is very strange.

The 'rib' word has likely cognates in Greek -- the verb <erépto:>
'cover, provide with a roof' (*h1rebH-je/o-) and its lexical family. If
there ever was an initial laryngeal in this root, it was *h1 rather than
*h3. Initial /o/ is only found in "Rasmussen derivatives" with the
O-fix, <óropHos, oropHé:> 'cover, roof' and must be due to Gk. vowel
assimilation, as in <odoús> and <ónoma>. It's far from obvious that the
Albanian word belongs to the same etymon at all. The pattern of
assimilation in the alleged "labial + *n" sequence is also suspect,
given that *-pn- yields Alb. /m/, as in <gjumë> 'sleep'.

Piotr