Re: [tied] *rebh- or *H3rebh-

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From: Abdullah Konushevci

To: cybalist@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Monday, July 03, 2006 10:04 AM

Subject: Re: [tied] *rebh- or *H3rebh-

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, Piotr Gasiorowski <gpiotr@...>
wrote:
>
> On 2006-07-03 01:32, Abdullah Konushevci wrote:
>
> > And what would convince anyone of the initial *H2 in *kous- 'to
hear'.
> > I think Greek form akouein 'to hear'. And, in case of *rebh-, I
think
> > it is Albanian form <brinjë> 'rib' that gives me a right to
> > reconstruct it as *H3rebh-.
>
> It doesn't until you demonstrate, using independent evidence, that
*h3-
>  > *b- in Albanian. What are your examples?
>
> Piotr
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OK. Lets take other example:

*rebh- `to move, hurry'. Probably extended root of *er-.

 

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Patrick:

 

"Probably"? I think 'possibly' would be charitable. This characterization is, in my opinion, completely unjustified.

 

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1. Alb.
<revan> `fast pacing gait for a horse, pace; fast pace, hurry,
haste' probably from lengthened o-grade form *ro:bh-ont-: NPers.
raftan `to go': Ossetic ravag `fast': MIr reb `game': Germanic *reb-
 `to be in fast, strong movement'. 2a. Alb. <vrap> `run, running';
b. denominative <vrapoj> `to run, flee'; c. adverb <me vrap> `at a
run'. (Pokorny 1. rebh- 853.)
*H3 is described phontecally as a rounded velar fricative [XW], but
I doubt as well that /b/ in <brinjë> as well as <v> in <vrap> could
as well be a prefix, but rounded character of *H3, followed by
resonant leaves a space to doubt of their laryngeal origin.
Nevertheless, I just started to treat words in *r-. It was just an
assumption. But, to not accept that Alb. <brinjë> that has so much
cognate in Germanic languages and in Slavic, is very strange.

Konushevci





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