Re: [tied] Re: Latin barba in disaccord with Grimm's Law?

On Sub, lipanj 24, 2006 12:36 am, Miguel Carrasquer reče:

>>> That's rather from *kWtwó:r, like Grk. pisures or
>>> (West-)Slavic c^Ityre.

Not only West-Slavic, cf. Slovene s^tiri. But Slavic *c^Ityre has nothing
to do with PIE *kWtwor-. The yer is a product of later sporadic reduction
in Slavic, common after initial *c^-, cf. c^eso/c^Iso,
c^elověkU/c^IlověkU.
PIE *kWtw- (phonetically *kW@... or *kWatw-) would yield *kot- in Slavic
in my opinion.

>> There's no such form as *kWtwó:r in PIE; *twor-/tur-
>>is original and *-kWé (prefixed to mean "and _") was
>>added by false morpheme division (also in "five").
>
> I agree that *-kWe in "five" is probably the familiar *-kWe
> "and" (1, 2, 3, 4 _and_ 5). I fail to see what it might be
> doing after "3".

I don't see the logic in this. Why would it be possible in 5 but not in 4?

Mate