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cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "Abdullah Konushevci"
<akonushevci@...> wrote:
> Participles that end in së in Albanian are: <me pasë> `to have',
> <me rrasë> `to squeeze, jam, stuff', <m'u qasë> `to approach', <me
> plasë> 'to burst, blew up' (see Orel, AED) and their ending së
was
> supposed to be from suffix t-yo > PAlb. -tja, except <pasë> that
is
> supposed, according to H. Pedersen, to be from participle *pot-to,
> that justifies *-tt- > Alb. /s/. I am not aware for other cases
and
> I will be very grateful if you could offer some others, because
> testis unus, testis nullus.
>
> Konushevci
>
I. Hamp 'suspect' the same rule:
"On dental-plus-dental (pp. 76-78), Indic tt and Iranian st point to
*tst (which we see in Hittite); see also A. Meillet, Dialectes
indoeuropéens 60. Greek st and Balto-Slavic st point to *tst,
according to Meillet, op. cit. 61. Italic, Keltic, and Germanic,
however, share ss (which could conceivably come from a mediate *ts).
Porzig refers (p. 77) to "die Lücke unserer Kenntnis beim
Armenischen und Albanischen." Meillet (p. 57), however, has st for
Albanian, Illyrian, Thracian, and Phrygian. The truth is that
Albanian shows a present-day s (pasë 'had [participle]',
besë 'faith, loyalty'); see Hamp, KZ 1961:77.252-253. This must go
back to a groove affricate, perhaps *ts. "
even besë-example above seems to be wrong...
II. Interesting also is Hamp's position on our discussed topic:
"mjal-të (p. 203) is an interesting case where careful dialect study
pays off. In a few villages of Greece that show the contrast, and in
reflexes in some enclaves of Italy, we find that we have
mjáltë 'honey', in contrast to báh?të 'mud'. Thus the first is not
an original *lt cluster, but has lost a vowel by syncope; on the
other hand, the l (not orthographic ll) must come from an old
cluster, and *ll is the only plausible one. The etymon is, then, the
Latin word, and not Indo-European. Thus, Albanian here goes with
Balto-Slavic, Tocharian, and Aryan, after all. Culturally, this
gains in interest when we recall that Jokl (Linguistisch-
kulturhistorische Untersuchungen aus dem Bereiche des Albanischen
289-296 [Berlin, 1923]) has traced bletë 'bee' to Latin *melle:tum."
http://members.tripod.com/~Groznijat/balkan/ehamp.html
Marius