Re: [tied] Re: Note on palatals

On Pon, svibanj 29, 2006 9:14 pm, squilluncus reče:

> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, Andrew Jarrette <anjarrette@...>
> wrote:
>> Just as a by-the-way observation, I have noticed that many
>>Swedish speakers replace their velar /k/ (written k before a, o, u,
>>etc.) with a palatal-sounding plosive, almost /kj/.
>
> So far unnoticed by me. But unspoilt ears can hear things that are
> unveiled to daily listeners. You are suggesting something like Île
> de France "char" as opposed to Norman "car", aren't you?
>
>>But many Swedish speakers also pronounce a former palatal or
>>alveolopalatal sound, their sk before front vowels (as well as sj,
>>stj) as a labialized velar fricative or something similar,
>>something like /xW/.
>
> You are right that there is a tendency towards /x/ but this is still
> considered vulgar.

Are you sure it is considered vulgar? I heard it is considered a male
characteristic. However, I have met two Swedish teachers (30 something)
from Uppsala and the man had a /s^/, while the woman had a /x/. She did
not consider it vulgar though and that was the way she pronounced
"Standard" Sweidish.

Mate