Re: [tied] Re: PIE genitive plural *-o:m, a possible analysis

From: Patrick Ryan
Message: 44382
Date: 2006-04-22

 
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Rob
Sent: Friday, April 07, 2006 8:54 AM
To: cybalist@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [tied] Re: PIE genitive plural *-o:m, a possible analysis
 

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "Patrick Ryan" <proto-language@...>
wrote:

>   ***
>   Patrick:
>
>   Sorry for the delay in responding.
>
>   The most transparent examples for this contrast is found in the 
> _late_ forms:
>
>   bhóro-s, 'act (singular) of bearing, what is borne'
>
>   bhoró-s, 'acts (plural) of bearing, bearer'

I fail to see how singularity correlates to nomen actionis and
plurality correlates to nomen agentis.

***

Patrick:

Well, then, let me recategorize as punctual vs. durative. Can you recognize that difference between the two forms?

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>   My claim would be that the _essential_ difference between these 
> two forms is number.
>
>
>   Nominally, the fewest additional complications are seen in root 
> nouns:
>
>   Cé(:)C-s, singular; Co(:)Cé-s, plural  (*wékW[o]-s / *wokWé-s)

Yet that is not what we see, is it?  Do we not see sg. *wé:kWs vs. pl.
*wékWes?  To my knowledge, the nominative plural ending is never accented.

- Rob


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Patrick:

Of course, *wé:kWs is _not_ what we see if Pokorny is to be reliable. It is rather *wékWos (note: short *e!).

Do you know of a language displaying such a singular?

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