[tied] Re: PIE Word Formation (1)

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "Piotr Gasiorowski" <gpiotr@...>
wrote:

>
> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "tgpedersen" <tgpedersen@> wrote:
>
> > I suspect the thematic inflection became the "open" one, in the
> > sense that foreign words were assigned to it. That would explain

why

> > *ekW-o-, *taur-o- and *wlkW-ó- (?) are thematic.
>
> It's *wl.'kWo-. But there are PIE or sub-PIE nouns which are

certainly

> borrowed (those above need not be) and which are not o-stems, e.g.
> *septm. 'seven' *pelek^u- 'axe'. It's true that the thematic
> declension eventually became the default one in the PIE noun

system,

> but it's a poor diagnostic test for detecting loans.
>

Erzya Mordva ajgor, Moksha Mordva ajg&r, loans from
Tatar, "stallion". Not exactly compelling, but the possibility of a
loan is there. (Note also Mordva ajdJa "drives").


Torsten