Re: Albanian nose

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "Abdullah Konushevci"
<akonushevci@...> wrote:

>
> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "alexandru_mg3" <alexandru_mg3@>
> wrote:
> >
> > --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "Abdullah Konushevci"
> > <akonushevci@> wrote:
> >
> > > *neu-ks- `to smell'. 1. Alb. <hundë> `nose'
> > > Konushevci
> > >
> >
> > I prefer an etymology asserting that: <<'an Albanian nose' is 'a
> PIE
> > nose'>>
>
> [AK]
> And exactly this is one.

[Marius] please to detail here the phonetic rules that you have
applied for you derivation....you will see the issues.

> > PIE *hneh2s- 'nose' > PIE *hn.h2s-ú-nt-o/eh2 > PAlb/Dacian?
> *asúnta:
> > > (see gjuhë, vjehërr, kohë (despite the doubts)) > PAlb/Dacian?
> > *ahúnta: > Alb. húndë
>
> [AK]
> All these etymologies, for me, are not plausible.

[Marius] Not plausible? based on what?
1. Sematism? Identical.
2. Phonetic Rules? Ok.

Either you have arguments or ...

> > Note: 1. For another -nt- <<nose>>-formation: see Skt. nasvaìnt-
> > [adj] `nosed' (AV)
> >
> > 2. we cannot exclude also an -n- formation:
> > PIE *hn.h2s-ú-n-eh2 > PAlb/Dacian? asúna: with probable some
> > alternative unattested forms PAlb/Dacian? *násuna < PIE *hnh2és-

u-

> no
>
> [AK]
> And, where to leave the lack of non-rhotacized Tosk form or
> rhotacism didn't act at all to this word.

[Marius]
Because it was either -nd- or -nt- in that times. => See
Albanian 'man' with n as another example < Dacian manteia. But I
agree that a n>nd before the rothacism is less probable and that
an -nt- formation is more probable.

Marius