[tied] Re: ph3 > b -> Albanian dë-borë Romanian zãpada and Dacia

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, Piotr Gasiorowski <gpiotr@...>
wrote:

>
> On 2006-03-15 02:51, alexandru_mg3 wrote:
>
> > Same for Alb. dëborë 'snow' : finally we 'are obliged' to

explain also

> > why the intervocalic b in Albanian dëborë is still there

(because

> > Albanian & Romanian share the same rule

b/intervocalic>zero...And

> > there is a single answer: because it wasn't a simple b at that

time...

>
> No: what happen's at the prefix-stem juncture is different from

what

> happens word-internally. As a result, the beginning of a lexical
> morpheme is often a "protected" environment.
> Piotr
>

1. I already told in another posting that usually I cannot see the
differences that you proposed here in case of Proto-Albanian. Please
come back with some Albanians examples to sustain your point

2. Now I need to come back from a different point of view: If the
prefix was only *dz- in dëborë (that I strongly suspect to be the
case) you point is 'not-applicable' at all.

So if the form was PAlb *apa:-da-ra:/aba:-da-ra: with the lost of
initial non-stressed a- in borë, the b 'is internal' both in dëborë
as in borë

Based on this the only possible conclusion remains: we didn't have
there an intervocalic -b- in PAlb time.

Marius