[tied] Re: ph3 > b -> Albanian dë-borë Romanian zãpada and Dacia

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "Abdullah Konushevci"
<akonushevci@...> wrote:

>
> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "alexandru_mg3" <alexandru_mg3@>
> wrote:
> >
> > --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "Abdullah Konushevci"
> > <akonushevci@> wrote:
> > > So, d- si a
> > > prefix (see *ad- 'to, near, at' in Albanian Inherited Lexicon
> (1))
> > > and -ë in this case is just a filler to avoid hard contact of

two

> > > voiced stops. In this case, <dë-borë> is just prefixed form.
> >
> >
> > Is what I have said also: having borë and dë-borë for sure that

d-

>
> > or dë- is a prefix. Please read my postings again, I have said

the

> > same thing.
> >
> > If the root was *apa- 'water' > *apa-da-ra/*aba-da-ra for sure dz-
> apa-
> > da-ra is a prefixed form, isn't it? (as I have already said)
> >
> >
> > Where I not agree with you: is the etymology of this prefix :
> > 'near' to what? 'snow' = 'near snow'? or 'snow' = 'at snow'
> or 'snow'
> > ='to snow'...This doesn't have any sense...
> >
> > So the d- here is more probable from the same phonetic pattern as
> in
> > Alb. dhemjë versus Alb vemjë > PAlb *dz-o:mida:/*o:mida: =>
> Romanian
> > omidã
> >
> >
> > Best Regards,
> > Marius
> ************
> No, v ~ dh alternation is similar to f ~ th: i thellë ~ i
> fellë 'deep', thëmijë ~ fëmijë 'child', therrë ~ ferrë.
> See for other cases Albanian Inherited Lexicon.
>
> Konushevci

There isn't any dh~v alternation in dhemjë ~ vemjë

An initial o:- passed to ve- (etc...) and an internal -o:- passed to
e (with the known exceptions)

So we have Only o:- in vemjë and *dz- + o: in dhemjë

Best Regards,
Marius