Re: [tied] Re: ph3 > b -> Albanian dë-borë Romanian zãpada and D

From: alex
Message: 43816
Date: 2006-03-14

alexandru_mg3 schrieb:

>
> Romanian Derivation:
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> PIE *h2ep-h3n.h2-dHo-ro >Dacian *dz- + ap(b)a-da:-ra > *dzapa:dra
> that will regularly give PRomanian zãpadrã > zãpadã (PRom -drV/trV >
> Rom -dV/-tV see Balkan Latin fratre > Rom frate

No offence but I will mention three aspects which should speak
against this idea:

The first one is that you cannot compare "fratre" with "*dzapadra";
the "r" in the last syllable of "fratre" got lost because of the
presence of the first "r" in the firts syllable, thus it was
assimilated in the first "r" in the pronounciation. There are many
words which ends in "-trV" or "-drV" in Rum.( it is in fact a
distinct feature of this language) but I cannot recall one word
where there is an end like "-trV/-drV" and before of this end there
is a syllable containing an "r".

The second aspect is where you want to have the "*dz-" there?Did I
missed something?
The last aspect should be the fact there are a lot of
transformations needed here in both languages for bringing these
together. Usually, the other Alb/Rum pairs we know are not such
complicated to see.

Alex