Re: [tied] PIE suffix *-ro

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, Piotr Gasiorowski <gpiotr@...>
wrote:

>
> On 2006-01-07 15:06, tgpedersen wrote:
>
> > How about this: -r is the endingless locative of n-stems. That

takes

> > care of the Germanic 'locatives' in -r (here, there etc) too.
>
> My original intention was a "grand unification" of *-tó-, *-nó-

and

> *-ró- as reflexes of a single type. As far as I can see, the only
> possible common denominator for them is *-nt- plus thematising
> derivation. *X-ó- adjectives generally mean 'pertaining or

belonging to

> X, connected with X', so something like *kWr.-t-ó- 'done', if

derived

> from the active participle *kW-ént- 'doing' (referring to the

agent),

> makes sense as 'connected with the doer', more or less.
>
> As for the endingless locatives of heteroclitic _nouns_, they

usually

> show a final *-n plus suffixal stress, which _may_ indicate a lost
> enclitic (perhaps identical with what otherwise appears as *-i).

Thus,

> we have *ud-én rather that *!*wéd-r. In compounds, on the other

hand,

> the form with *-r is preferred, cf. RV ahar-ahar- 'day by day' vs.
> loc.sg. ahan, ah(a)ni.
>
> Piotr

1. I doubt that the "r" of 'ahar' has something to do with the
suffix *-ro and the "n" of 'ahan' with the suffix *-no

2. you talk about a "grand unification as reflexes of a single type"
without to can fix in advance 'the final/the latest meanings' of *-
tó-, *-nó- and *-ró- ? Is like to put "the wheel in front of the
chariot" (Romanian Proverb) ; to take a similar example : in physics
they needed to find first what cause the electric interactions
etc... before to talk about a "unified theory of forces"

3. In this case why not to include also *-lo *-ko *-mo *-dho *-so *-
bho etc... in this 'grand unification' ?

Marius

P.S.: I need to agree that any X-<<suffix> (and not only -ro, -to, -
no) means 'pertaining or belonging to <<X>>, connected with <<X>>':
but this is a simple thautology like a=a.... (it remains to can
find 'the specific nature' of this connection )

Re: [tied] PIE suffix *-ro - 'similar-with'