Re: [tied] PIE suffix *-ro - 'similar-with'

From: tgpedersen
Message: 42865
Date: 2006-01-10

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, Piotr Gasiorowski <gpiotr@...>
wrote:
>
> On 2006-01-07 15:06, tgpedersen wrote:
>
> > How about this: -r is the endingless locative of n-stems. That
takes
> > care of the Germanic 'locatives' in -r (here, there etc) too.
>
> My original intention was a "grand unification" of *-tó-, *-nó-
and
> *-ró- as reflexes of a single type.

*-no and *-ro together sounds good, and Sihler proposes it too.

>As far as I can see, the only
> possible common denominator for them is *-nt- plus thematising
> derivation.

Why not *-n- + *-t- > *-nt-? That would mean one would have to find
a semantically oriented explanation, rather than phonetic one for
the respective occurrence of *-n-, *-t- and *-nt-, which seems more
promising to me.



*X-ó- adjectives generally mean 'pertaining or belonging to
> X, connected with X', so something like *kWr.-t-ó- 'done', if
derived
> from the active participle *kW-ént- 'doing' (referring to the
agent),
> makes sense as 'connected with the doer', more or less.
>


> As for the endingless locatives of heteroclitic _nouns_, they
usually
> show a final *-n plus suffixal stress, which _may_ indicate a lost
> enclitic (perhaps identical with what otherwise appears as *-i).
Thus,
> we have *ud-én rather that *!*wéd-r.

So: a combining form (= *(a)gW- "water" ?) plus an acrostatic
*der, *dens (should be *ter, *tens)?

>In compounds, on the other hand,
> the form with *-r is preferred, cf. RV ahar-ahar- 'day by day' vs.
> loc.sg. ahan, ah(a)ni.


Aha ;-)


Torsten