--- Patrick Ryan <
proto-language@...> wrote:
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Sean Whalen" <stlatos@...>
> > --- Patrick Ryan <proto-language@...> wrote:
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Sean Whalen" <stlatos@...>
> > > > --- Patrick Ryan <proto-language@...>
> wrote:
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "Sean Whalen" <stlatos@...>
> > > > > > --- Patrick Ryan <proto-language@...>
> > > wrote:
> > The present nasal infix was n^ and in Sanskrit
> n^X
> > > n^: > n^i: > ni: unlike n: > a:
> > In Albanian n^>y between V's and dn^ > n^n^ >
> > nj.
>
> ***
> Patrick:
>
> First, there is _no_ nasal infix. There is a nasal
> suffix which, under
> certain conditions, undergoes metathesis.
I've said the same thing here; I'm just describing
it using standard language; no matter its origin it
has become an infix here.
> Is *n^ intended to indicate /ñ/? A mere palatal
> allophone of /n/?
Not an allophone; not palatal. A palatalized
alveolar n (*n^ < N^).
Here are sample derivations:
dhódh_n^ dhedhn^ós dhódh_n^M_nt-
dhódh_n^ dhedhn^ós dhódh_n^v_nt-
dhódh_n^ dhedhn^ós dhódh_n^w_nt-
dhódh_n^ dhedhn^ós dhódhan^w_nt-
dhódhi dhedhn^ós dhódhan^wat-
dhádhi dhadhn^ás dhádhan^wat-
dhádhi dhadhnás dhádhanwat-
dádhi dadhnás dádhanwat-
dádhi dadhnás dádhanvat-
~milk (gen.) containing ~milk
bh_ndhn^àxti bh_ndh_n^xmès
bh_ndhn^áxti bh_ndh_n^xmés
bh_ndhn^á:ti bh_ndh_n^:més
bhadhn^á:ti bhadhn^i:més
bhadhn^á:ti bhadhn^i:más
bhadhná:ti bhadhni:más
badhná:ti badhni:más
is binding we are binding
M>v after nasal, etc.
v>w
tone merger
x>mora
nasal C to aC before X, w
syllabic nasal to V (n>a, n^>i, n^:>n^i:)
e/o>a
n^>n except by palatal
aspirate dissimilation
Also jihvá:- and possibly pú:r < pól_n^-/p_ln^- as
Greek pólis (tongue and city).
> > > > Again, I think there were at least several
> > > affixes
> > > > containing *t.
> >
> > > Why do you not just spell out what you mean?
> > >
> > > I know of only one. But I am willing to learn.
> >
> > I just mean there are suffixes containing t
> like
> > -èto- -tó- -t- -t (3rd pl) -nt- that aren't
> > necessarily related.
>
> ***
> Patrick:
>
> So what?
I answered your question.
> > > > Since kk^ becomes kk (accounting for the
> > > difference
> > > > between "horn" and "hornless")
> >
> > > Where is any *kk^ in horn???
> >
> > Not horn, hornless (< eks+) in the table below
my explanation starting:
>
> > dr_n^ghó- k^r_Ngó- eksk^r_Ngó-
> > druNg sruNg or suruNg l.uNg
> ***
> Patrick:
>
> I am not a mind-reader. Where does kk^ occur?
Here it is again below; line 3 (ekk^r._Ngó-).
dl_n^gHó- k^r._Ngó- eksk^r._Ngó-
dl_n^gHó- k^r._Ngó- ekk^r._Ngó- 3
dl_NgHó- k^r._Ngó- ekkr._Ngó- 4
dl._NgHó- k^r._Ngó- ekkr._Ngó- 6
dl._NgHó- tr._Ngó- ekkr._Ngó- 17
dl.uNgHó- tr.uNgó- ekkr.uNgó- 20
dl.uNgHó- tr.uNgó- ekr.uNgó- 21
dr.uNgHó- tr.uNgó- ekr.uNgó- 26
dr.uNgHá- tr.uNgá- akr.uNgá- 27
dr.uNgHá- r.uNgá- akr.uNgá- 32
dr.uNgá- r.uNgá- akr.uNgá- 35
druNgá- ruNgá- akr.uNgá- 37
druNgá- sruNgá- akr.uNgá- 38
druNgá- sruNgá- akr.0uNgá- 44
druNgá- sruNgá- akHr.uNgá- 46
druNgá- sruNgá- axr.uNgá- 48
druNgá- sruNgá- xr.uNgá- 51
drúNga- srúNga- xr.úNga- 58
drúNga- srúNga- hr.úNga- 62
drúNga- srúNga- r.úNga- 80
drúNga srúNga r.úNga 84
drúNg srúNg r.úNg 85
drúNg srúNg l.úNg 98
drúNg s(u)ruNg l.úNg 106
long, tall horn hornless
In all Indo-Iranian languages s>0 between two stops.
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