Re: [tied] Romanian Rothacism and the Iranian Influence

From: alexandru_mg3
Message: 42767
Date: 2006-01-04

> Piotr wrote:
> One could extend this list greatly with examples from non-IE
>languages. We certainly need no Iranian influence to explain the change
>in Romanian.


Piotr, sorry to say but your argumentation is necesary but not
sufficient...:)

We have the following facts:

a) The Romanian Rhotacism appears 'after or in the same time' with more
than 1000 years of Iranian (Scythian and Sarmatian)<->Dacian contacts
(from sec VII BCE to sec V CE) in Dacia and around it.

b) We also know that the Indo-Iranian l>r happpened before 1000 BCE...

c) The Proto-Romanians trigerred this transformation (that finished
later in sec V-VI CE) that is not present in Albanian or in Dalmatian
Romance

d) The Romanian-Substratum (so implicitly the people that where
Romanized and next became Romanians) is very probable a Daco-Moesian
one.

So this possible Iranian influence on Proto-Romanian rhotacism is 'at
least as well as possible' as your 'internal evolution' trigerred by an
unknown cause'

Marius