Re: [tied] *b(e)u-/*bh(e)u:- 'to blow, swell'

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From: "Abdullah Konushevci" <akonushevci@...>
To: <cybalist@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 10:08 PM
Subject: Re: [tied] *b(e)u-/*bh(e)u:- 'to blow, swell'


On 12/27/05, Patrick Ryan <proto-language@...> wrote:
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Abdullah Konushevci" <akonushevci@...>
> To: <cybalist@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 10:59 AM
> Subject: [tied] *b(e)u-/*bh(e)u:- 'to blow, swell'
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> *b(e)u-/*bh(e)u:- `to blow, swell'.
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> I. Reduplicated form *bu-beH2. 1a. Alb. <bubë> `silk-worm; roundworm;
> nit; imaginary monster, bugaboo'; 1b. Diminutive form <bubël> `knot,
> small lump'; 1c. Denominative bubë-ron `to deluce; 1d. deverbative
> <bubur-ec> `bug, ant', as well as buburezë `ladybug, ladybird' (cf.
> Swedish bobba `insect', bubba `laus'; Sl. buba `id.'); 1e. <bub-a-
> zhel> `sacred scarab, dung beetle'. 1f. <burbuqe/bubuqe>, also short
> form <buqe> `bud' is probably the result of reduplicated form *bubuk-
> ya (*ky > q) or a result of two different form *bur- and *buk-
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> Patrick:
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> So glad to see you used *beu- rather than *bheu- for these words having to
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> do with 'swollen'.
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> *bheu properly belongs only to the idea of 'location'.
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Even I see only variant form in *bheu-, nevertheless I like to add that Alb.
<bubuqe/burbuqe> 'bud' has its cognate in South-Slavic <pupoljak> 'id.'.

Regards,
Konushevci

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Patrick:

Good for you!

I think it might be vaguely possible that *beu- had a fuller form,
*be?/Heu-, which might have produced *bHeu- under the right stress-accentual
conditions (since PIE *b was generally so unpopular) but, I must confess, I
do not see that happening with either *d or *g/*g^.

I would be inclined _not_ to connect the two mentioned above; *peu- has its
own independent existence specialized, when properly employed, to 'blow
up/out' rather than 'swollen' but with the usual sloppy crossovers.

Our ancestors needed a good *bobo on the *popo.

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