> alex wrote:
> > I will not talk about r. (that is 'too old'),
>
> too old= not interesting enough or its reflex is well known ?:-)
No 'too old' means that it passed first to something else rV~Vr
(please see the messages regarding h1,h2,h3) and than 'some' rV~Vr
passed later to rã,râ or ra (sorry for my unclear answer)
> > but only about Vr and
> > rV in Romanian 'old words' (Latin or not): we have obviously 'a
> > too'
> > and not only rã/râ like in:
> >
> > Rom. márgine 'edge'
> > Rom. máre 'big'
> > Rom. bárdzã 'stork'
> > Rom. gárd 'fence'
>
> That is a matter of stress here. The stressed "a" remained "a", the
> unstressed "a" changed to "ã" but in some conditions in "â".
No, I have talked above Only about stressed á . Please check on your
side too: we have both cases (as I mentioned) => the source of
stressed rã/râ/ãr/âr versus stressed ra/ar is caused by the oposition
between r versus rr in PAlb/Dacian? and next in the Balkan Latin.
Please follow the stressed âr/âr/rã/ãr versus stressed ar/ra
alternance in all Romanian Words (I will add: brád and ráTã too..)
based on the following timeframes:
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here ----> we have only PAlb r
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1. rw > rr (PAlb)
2. wr > rr (PAlb)
3. V-r-V > rr (PAlb)
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6. Latin rrV => Romanian râ (see Rom. urâ 'to hate')
5. Latin initial r- was closed to rr- (see Albanian rr in the Latin
Loans) => Romanian râ (see râu 'river')
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4. V-l-V > r (CommonRomanian)
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and you will see that this is the explanation.
Note: I'm not sure if 3. is applicable for Romanian-Substratum
Marius
P.S.:
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1. We 'cannot remove' brad, gard, bardzã, raTã etc...from 'Our'
Dacian list.
2. If a model didn't fit 'Our above requirement' => so 'very bad' for
that 'model' -:).
3. Please take care, here -:) : at the end everything is a matter of
faith.