Re: [tied] Re: *-pn/m-/-b(h)n/m- > Alb. /m/

On 12/12/05, alexandru_mg3 <alexandru_mg3@...> wrote:

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "Abdullah Konushevci"
<akonushevci@...> wrote:
>
> 1) *H2ep- `water, river' > Alb. <amë> `water, river', pl. <emna>,
from
> suffixed form *H2ep-no-; amull `backwater' probably from further
> suffixed form *H2ep-no-lo; shtamë/shtambë `potbellied clay water'
<

For pn > m (Timeframe: Before Roman Times) we have gjumë < PIE *sup-
no (so pn > m is regular)
 
a) But why a  PAlb *áp-na-u-la or *áp-nau-la would not give ámall ?

b) Do you now other extension in -no in other languages added to
the PIE root h2ep- 'water ? 

 

Yes. I have give Lat. amnis < *ap-nis. So, *H2ep-no(u)lo is equal to *n.bh (u)-lo > avull.

   Note: The PIE suffix *-no represents at its origins  deverbative
adjectives: so  <verb + -no> (but it's true also that it was later
extended to other type of nouns too,so from here my question)

*-no-. Also -eno-, -ono-. Suffix forming adjectives. When the base is verbal, they are participial (tak-en); when the base is nominal [like in *H2ep-), they are adjectival (Watkins, AHDIER, pp.58) 
> 2) *leubh- `to care, desire; love' > Alb. lumë/lum `happy,
blessed,
> lucky' < *lummo<*lum-no < *lubh-no (cf.); abstract noun <lum-
> ni> `blessing, happiness, luck';

  Note: here -no is quite ok: <verb(*leubh- 'to care , to love') + -
no> as I presented before....

  Do you have another example showing *bhn > *mn ? (from there mn >
m is regular in Albanian)

  Best Regards,
     Marius

Konushevci

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