Re: [tied] Proto-Albanian Timeframes

From: Abdullah Konushevci
Message: 42432
Date: 2005-12-06

Or, better, <i prapshtë/mrapshtë> 'improprier', <prapsht-i> 'impropierty', <i lagshtë> 'wet', <lagsht-i> 'moisture'. In case of <madhështi> adjective seems lost its use in Albanian. It may be that -sht is from superlative -isto, formed from zero-grade of comparative suffix -yos- with the addition of -to- marking the accomplishment  of the notion of intensity: cf. i lag-të, i prap-të etc.

On 12/6/05, Abdullah Konushevci <akonushevci@...> wrote:
No, suffix -i forms abstract noun from adjective: i lirë 'free', <lir-i:> 'freedom', <i zi> 'dark', <zi:> 'mournfulness', < i dashur> 'loved', <dashur-i> 'love', <i lumtur> 'happy', <lumtur-i> 'happiness' and must be separated from -sht.


On 12/6/05, alexandru_mg3 <alexandru_mg3@... > wrote:
--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, Abdullah Konushevci
<akonushevci@...> wrote:
>
> On 12/6/05, alexandru_mg3 <alexandru_mg3@...> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Hello Abdullah,
> >   Piotr wrote: "trisyllabic ones like <madhështi:>"
> >
> >   Please tell us: Does <madhështi:> has currently a long i and is
tri-
> > syllablic in today Albanian?
> >
> >   Thansk a lot,
> >       marius
>
>
> ************
> Yes, it si trisyllabic, for /ë/, like in many other cases, has just
euphonic
> function: it serves to separate and to easy pronounce cluster of
three
> consonants. In concret case we have -dhsht-, where /ë/ was palced
to avoid
> the difficulty of pronounciation. Ohterwise, -sht<*stH- is aded to
adjective
> <i madh> 'big' (cf. <madhsht-or> 'splended' etc. In this case *g' >
dh, but
> in case of *me:g'to > moujt- (attested in "Meshari") (*e: seems to
be
> diphthonged like in *pe:d:- > pout- and *-gt- was treated as -jt-,
cf.
> *lagzda > Alb. <lajthi/lejthi> 'hazelnut').
>
> Konushevci

  
  Thanks a lot, Abdullah.
  Piotr, you need to add an argument to the following question:
    'Why -(ë)shti in madhështi: couldn't be added later?"

    I ask this because -(ë)shti seems to be an 'active' suffix in
Albanian...

    Best Regards,
       Marius

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