Re: Proto-Albanian Timeframes

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "alexandru_mg3" <alexandru_mg3@...>
wrote:

>

Dear Marius,

it can be I missed a lot and I cannot follow with lexical data some
of the aspects you mentioned here. Thus, I will cut up what I can
trace and I will let & comment the aspects where I cannot trace it,
hoping you will revert with additionly explanations.

> II. Pre-historic times (before sec V BCE)
> ==========================================
> II.1 n. > a ->shared with Pre-Rom.
> II.2 m. > a ->shared with Pre-Rom.

examples for "n., m." > a ?

>
> II.20 k^ > dz (before sec V BCE)->shared with Pre-Rom.
> II.21 g^ > ts (before sec V BCE)->shared with Pre-Rom.

is this not other way arund? k^ > ts and g^ > dz ?

> II.40 -tt- [-tst-] > c^

examples?

>
>
> IV. Before Roman Times
> ========================
>
> IV.20 sk/'some' contexts? > ks (before sec V BCE) ->shared with Pre-
> Rom.
>
> IV.20 sp > ps (before sec V BCE) -> shared with Pre-Rom.
>
>
> IV.30 e: > a: (later on sec III BCE) -> shared with Pre-Romanians
>
>
> IV.40 s-/w,accented syllable > zero (later on sec III-II BCE)
> -> shared with Pre-Romanians

examples for all these 4 situations?

> IV.41 s-/accented syllable > gj (later on sec III-II BCE)
> -> shared with Pre-Romanians (su:sa: > PAlb gjush <-> Rom. gjuj)

something doesnt fit here. an "gi" in the protoroman times should
yeld an "g^" in Rum, not an "gi".

> IV.60 ps > f (later on sec I CE) -> shared with Pre-Romanians
> IV.61 ks > h (later on sec I CE) -> shared with Pre-Romanians
> IV.63 Maybe s/intervocalic > h (later on sec I BCE) -> ex.gjuhë ->
> shared with Pre-Romanians

example for all 3 situations?

> V.43.b we-/unstressed > ve- (sec I- III CE) -> PreRom preserved
> the we (later we > wã > wo > o -> Rom. hots < *wedz-tsa)

is there any other example of dz-ts > ts beside of "ots" (hots) ?

>
>
> V.50 ai > e (sec II - III CE) -> shared with Pre-Romanians

example?

>
>
> V.60 lw > ll (sec II- III CE) -> shared with PreRom.
> V.61 rw > rr (sec II- III CE) -> shared with PreRom.

example for both?

> V.91 b/intervocalic > zero (sec V-VI CE) -> shared with PRom.
> V.92 w/intervocalic > zero (sec V-VI CE) -> shared with PRom.
> V.93 y/intervocalic > zero (sec V-VI CE) -> shared with PRom.

examples for all 3 situations?

> VI. End of Roman Times (sec V-VII)
> ===================================
>
> VI.2 ms > s (sec IV-V CE)-> shared with PRom.

example of ms > s ?

> V.40 a-,w-,e-/not-stressed > zero (sec V-VI CE) -> partial shared
> with PRom.

examples?

> VI.50 nt > nd (sec V-VII)-> NOT shared with ORom.

I will write here nC > nC1 where C1= sonor alophone of C mute

> VII.12 ei > i (sex IX-X) ->NOT shared with ORom.

I will say this feature is shared as well see fetei > feti

> VII.13 a/before i > e (sec IX - X) -> NOT shared with ORom

the apophony is known in both Lang. in Rom. "a" > "e" before "e"
and "i".



Alex