Re: [tied] Proto-Albanian Timeframes

From: Piotr Gasiorowski
Message: 42422
Date: 2005-12-06

alexandru_mg3 wrote:

> V.10 dz > dh (sec I-II CE) -> Pre-Romanians preserved the dz V.11
> ts > th (sec I-II CE) -> Pre-Romanians preserved the ts
...
> VI.40 d/intervocalic > dh (sec V-VII)-> NOT shared with ORom.
...
> VII.1 dh/intervocalic > h > zero ( > 3 syllables) (sec VII-X) -> NOT
> shared with ORom

Now, this is hard to defend. Had *dz (*3 in my notation) passed into *D
(= [ð]) already in Roman times, it would have merged with the
intervocalic reflex of *-d- and they would have been lost together
between vowels. I know of no examples of *dz lost in this way. It is
reflected as Mod.Alb. dh both in disyllabic words like <udhë> and
trisyllabic ones like <madhështi:>. Note that *3^ (modern /z/) has
survived as well. I'd prefer the following sequence:

I II III IV

-d- -D- zero zero
-3(')- -dD- -dD- -D-
-3^(W)- -3^- -3- -z-

At Stage III, voiced fricatives are lost intervocalically, but voiced
affricates remain. At Stage IV, all affricates become fricatives in most
positions.


> IV.50 dzy > g^ (sec III BCE - sec I BCE)->shared with Pre-Romanians
> IV.51 tzy > c^ (sec III BCE - sec I BCE)->shared with Pre-Romanians

I'm puzzled. What do you mean here? Any examples?

By the way, in your periodisation scheme Period IV follows Period II.
Where's number three?

Piotr