From: Patrick Ryan
Message: 42411
Date: 2005-12-05
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From: "Piotr Gasiorowski" <gpiotr@...>
To: <cybalist@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 7:18 AM
Subject: Re: [tied] Words with nucleus *-eu- & *-ou-
> Abdullah Konushevci wrote:
>
> >>What do you think, is also South-Slavic word <rudo> 'ore, mineral'
> >
> > and also
> >
> >><za-ruditi> 'to dawn' part of the root <roudh-> as well as <repa>
> >>'carrot' and <šangarepa>? I didn't find these derivatives in
>
> The "ore" word, which is common Slavic, not just southern, is no doubt
> part of the "red" etymon, the connection being provided by the colour of
> hematite and red ochre. There are also several Slavic verbs derived from
> the adjective *rudU, and Pokorny of course doesn't list them all.
>
> <repa> should be glossed as 'turnip' and is unrelated to *h1reudH- (cf.
> Lat. rapa, Alb. rrepë, Gk. hrápHus, OHG ruoba, etc., and Pokorny's entry
> for *ra:p-). There must have been a lot of borrowing of this word to and
> fro in Europe, but the turnip root itself, so to speak, may be PIE.
>
> Piotr
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Patrick:
In my opinion (that and 75¢ will get you coffee in a cheap joint), OHG ruoba
cannot be related to the others: it is based on a competitive *reubh-,
having *reu- in common with *reudh-.
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