Re: [tied] Lost of intervocalic -d- in Albanian bi-syllabic words?

From: alexandru_mg3
Message: 42361
Date: 2005-12-02

> Piotr wrote:
>The explanation is obvious: in this kind of verb stem the final
>consonant was analogically retained or restored because it had
>survived
>in the basic conjugational forms with the zero ending (<hedh>).


'Was analogically retained or restored' ? Are you so sure about
this 'was' when you don't have any attested form? at least to
say 'maybe it was' or 'it could be restored'...Sorry to say but this
seems already like your personal believe here (not to talk about 'fix
ideas'...)...and 'what if: d remain well there due to the fact that in
bi-syllabic words wasn't lost at all...' is isn't more simple then to
suppose first a lost and next a restauration? ( I will ignore 'an
analogical retention' because sound 'very strange')

Which such 'analogical retentions or restaurations' (that are pure
supposition when we don't have any attested form or a closer
parrallelism with another cognate) tomorrow we will not have any rule
or we will have 'each word with its own rule'

But to follow a little bit your 'analogy': seems that you have
ignored another Fact regarding hedh: the Fact is that d passed first
to dh in intervocalic positions (and next to h before to
dissapeared) : this is the logical path to follow d>dh>h>zero...and
the first Fact here that show you an intervocalic d>dh is the dh of
hedh,hedhim etc too ...(this transformation happened somewhere between
sec V - VII, because all the Slavic loans in Albanian shows d and
never dh that is not the case for Romanian-Substratum Words and For
Latin Loans)

So the final vowell was still there in all the forms because the
intervocalic d passed first to dh (together with rd>rdh: Rom gard <->
Alb gardh) : but of course you can say "that d in hed was changed to
dh by analogy based on the pl form hedhim <hedim where it passed first
regular"...
And if you will try to explain this too 'by analogy'...next you
will need 'to assert an analogical restauration', for vjedhull too
where the intervocalic dh is well visible...and this 'analogical hocus-
pocus' will never arrive to an end...

So the evidence show us that: 'intervocalic d passed first to dh;
and dh wasn't lost in intervocalic positions in bi-syllabic words, but
was lost in tri-syllabic words'

Best Regards,
Marius