Re: [tied] Re: Syntax and a bit of help

From: Patrick Ryan
Message: 42105
Date: 2005-11-14

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From: "glen gordon" <glengordon01@...>
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Sent: Monday, November 14, 2005 3:08 PM
Subject: Re: [tied] Re: Syntax and a bit of help


> C. Darwin Goranson:
> > Also, Glen? The word that you suggested for "sad,"
> > *tr.ste, where other than Latin is that attested?
>
> Sanskrit /trasati/ "to tremble".


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Patrick:

This is a very interesting word that shows us some important things about
PIE word-formation.

The ultimate source is *der-, 'tremble'.

The s-mobile form of this would be *ster-, 'tremble violently'.

Of course, the s-mobile could be removed (or absorbed): *ter-, 'tremble
violently'

The addition of -*s denotes a state: *(s)terés- > *(s)tres-, 'in the state
of having trembled violently, being afraid, being sad (after racking sobs)'

Of course, with usual abandon, this noun could be dragooned as a verb:
*(s)tres-, 'tremble/sob accompanying a state of fear or sadness'

And finally, since well enough can never be let alone, adding -*to for a
future participle: *(s)tRs-tó, 'saddening, pertaining to what will produce a
state of sadness or trembling'.

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