Re: [tied] Re: Syntax and a bit of help

C. Darwin Goranson:

> Just curious, though, why the "e" between
> the "g" and the final "t" there?

The thematic vowel? Oh, well follow them then. If
it's athematic, mea culpa. My noodle has been
twisted around ever since a previous discussion
about the origin of thematic presents was suggesting
that there were no present forms in IE itself distinct
from the subjunctive based on Anatolian and Tocharian
patterns.

> I prefer Glen's wording by far to my own. Again,
> the "e" before the final "s" of "xstéres," is that
> because of a miscalculation on my part or is it a
> matter of opinion among IE researchers?

It's just the animate plural in *-es.

> Glen: wixro:s ?sénti geltós trstós kWe
> First, the obvious: why the question-mark?

The glottal stop, yes.

> Clothed? I'm very confused by that word.

Poetic license. I was using it to refer to darkness
by thinking of the night as merely the daylight
being "covered over".

> And I'd read about agreement between the adjectives
> and nouns - am I getting that agreement totally
> wrong?

No, I was sloppy, partly on purpose to grab the ire
of other potential contributors. Usually, people like
to oppose me and that would have started a wonderful
debate. Unfortunately, people are currently obsessed
with Mr Kelkar and his band of merry men right now :)

> Also, should there be a "kWe in this phrase for the
> "and" sense?

Doesn't *kWe mean "and"?

> Is there any reconstructable word for "when" in PIE?
> And is there a future tense?

Not really. The present worked for the future tense.
The optative (marked in *-yeh-) might at times work to
convey a futuristic sense.

> Is the word "text" a computational mistake for some
> character or something, or is the word actually
> teh2t?

Yes. The verb /teh2-/ "to melt".

> Glen: kWo dínoi néwos wésr gWmt
> Again, the "s"es - same question, is this a
> semantic mistake on my part?

The nominative *-s in *newos? I don't follow.

> h2ég'r-os h2erh3-sye/o-mi (could be *-sye- or
> *-syo-)
> Glen: kWo dínoi xégrom xérhWom
> How does one include the word "again," while still
> including a future tense?

Hmm, *dWis "twice" with the verb in the subjunctive?

> I'm not trying to put down what you're saying.

This actually helps all of us get a better handle on
IE grammar.


= gLeN





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