Re: Proto Vedic Continuity Theory of Bharatiya (Indian) Languages

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "Francesco Brighenti"
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> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "mkelkar2003" <smykelkar@...>
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> > --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "Francesco Brighenti"
> <frabrig@...:
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> > > --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "mkelkar2003"

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> > wrote:
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> > > > As always non-linguistic evidence is the ultimate > > >
> adjudicator of the matter. All I can say is that genetic evidence
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> > > points to a flow of humans from the Indian subcontinent to the
> north > > > not the other way round.
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> > > How many tens of thousand years ago did this genetic > > flow
> occur?
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> > Please see sections 6.2 and 9.2 of proto vedic continuity >
> theory.doc
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> Where I read:
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> << Stephen Oppenheimer who has synthesized the available genetic
> evidence with climatology and archaeology notes the advances made

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> studies of mitochondrial DNA inherited through the mother and Y
> chromosomes inherited by males from the father. His conclusion is
> that while Africa is the cradle of all mankind (having left Africa
> about 90,000 years ago), India is the cradle of all non-African
> peoples (who during a glacial break 50,000 years ago moved out of
> India, into the Russian steppes, on to Eastern Europe, northeast
> through China and across the now submerged Bering Strait into the
> Americas……….Oppenheimer (2003) goes on to conclude: "'First, that
> the Europeans' genetic homeland was originally in South Asia in

the

> Pakistan/Gulf region over 50,000 years ago; and second, that the
> Europeans' ancestors followed at least two widely separated routes
> to arrive, ultimately, in the same cold but rich garden. The
> earliest of these routes was the Fertile Crescent. The second

early

> route from South Asia to Europe may have been up the Indus into
> Kashmir and on to Central Asia, where perhaps more than 40,000

years

> ago hunters first started bringing down game as large as

mammoths."

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> So, I have the answer (although you did not bother to spare me a
> search in your _magnus opus_): that out-of-India genetic flow
> occured some 50-40 kybp. Thanks, that's what I was looking for.

How

> does this datum relate to the IE homeland question?
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> Regards,
> Francesco

"http://evolutsioon.ut.ee/publications/Kivisild2003a.pdf

"If we were to use the same arithmetic and logic (sensu haplography
9 is Neolithic) to give an interpretation of this table, (Table
17.3), THE STRAIGHTFORWARD SUGGESTION WOULD BE THAT BOTH (NEOLITHIC)
AGRICULTURAL AND INDO-EUROPEAN LANGUAGES AROSE IN INDIA and from
there, spread to Europe (emphasis in the original)."

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