Re: [tied] Re: PIE voiceless aspirates

From: glen gordon
Message: 41772
Date: 2005-11-05

Bhrgowidhon:
> Yes, a group of roots with a phoneme different
> form /T/, /D/, and /Dh/ is there, e.g. *thengh-
> "pull" (LIV 657, IEW 1067); in such roots, no
> laryngeal */h2/ can have caused aspiration because
> the following vowel is */e/.

And what's wrong with the non-colouring *h1?


> Still, there is a small difficulty, that is: the
> occurrences of */Th/ are less than those of */Dh/.

Which is perfectly fine if *dH is not literally
an aspirate dental stop, but rather a "fully-voiced"
stop, opposing "half-voiced" *d. Now there are no
more problems and we can all sleep better at night.


> traditional Four-Series-PIE : 'revised'
> Four-Series-PIE
>
> */T/ : */Th/
> */Dh/ : */Dh/ (no difference)
> */D/ : */'D/ (pre-glottalized voiced)
> */Th/ : */T'/ (glottalized voiceless)

Or... the more Bomhardian-related idea:

*t (unvoiced)
*t: (half-voiced)
*d (fully-voiced)

I replace his glottal series with the half-voiced
series.


= gLeN





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